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When God Says ‘No’ #WakeUpOlive Bethel Worship Leaders’ Call for ‘Resurrection Life’ Miracle Leads to Questions of Faith

Asking God for a Dead Raising Miracle

According to a CBN article and various Instagram posts, Bethel worship leader Kalley Heiligenthal has called upon the global church to pray for her young daughter, Olive, who died over the weekend.

Heiligenthal and her husband, Andrew, are believing that their daughter can be raised back to life by the power of Jesus Christ, and are asking brothers and sisters in the faith to join with them in praying for a miracle.

“We’re asking for prayer. We believe in a Jesus who died and conclusively defeated every grave, holding the keys to resurrection power,” Kalley wrote, noting that Olive had been “been pronounced dead by doctors” on Saturday after she stopped breathing.

“We are asking for bold, unified prayers from the global church to stand with us in belief that He will raise this little girl back to life,” the heartbroken mother added. “Her time here is not done, and it is our time to believe boldly, and with confidence wield what King Jesus paid for. It’s time for her to come to life.”

Such boldness has many in the Christian body wondering, “What happens if God says ‘No’?'” and should pastors at a church like Bethel be supporting her outcry?

Bethel’s Jen Johnson and Dominic Shahbon shared videos on Instagram of Kalley herself leading worship on Sunday. The astonishing footage shows Heiligenthal boldly declaring that God will revive her daughter, with the church passionately echoing her cry for the Holy Spirit to move:

Kalley can be seen running across the stage and declaring a line from worship song “Way Maker.”

“Even when I don’t see it, you’re working,” she shouts. “And even when I don’t feel it, you’re working. You never stop, you never stop working.”

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“THIS. IS. WORSHIP. In awe,” wrote Hillsong’s Brooke Ligertwood of Kalley’s phenomenal declaration of faith amid such a crushing tragedy.

At the time of writing, Kalley’s post has garnered almost 13,000 comments, most of which are prayers of declaration for Olive to come to breathe again. “Declaring resurrection life,” wrote fellow Bethel worship leader, Brian Johnson.

“With you my friend and Absolutely praying for a miracle,” declared Hillsong’s Jonathon Douglass. “Praying kalley..warring. In JESUS NAME,” noted singer Kari Jobe.

“Kalley – the Barretts are praying. Jesus help,” added “Housefires” worship leader, Pat Barrett.

There is currently no update on Olive’s condition but we will keep you informed with any new information as it comes to light. A GoFundMe campaign has been set up to help the family at this difficult time. You can donate here.

Request for Funding is Raising Concerns

The family’s request for $100,000 to help cover the child’s rebirth expenses has many questioning the validity of Bethel Church’s involvement in such a call to prayer.The fundraiser has raised more than $33,000 in two days. Bethel Church in Redding, California, where Kelley is a singer, is one of the organizers of the fundraiser.

According to the GoFundMe page, the fundraiser is aimed to raise donations for the family’s “medical and other” costs. The Bethel Church did not respond to the Daily Dot’s request for comment.

The DailyDot.com reported, The Heiligenthals’ Instagram pages and GoFundMe pages are filled with wishes for their daughter’s resurrection: “Declaring ressurection life,” wrote one verified user.

But a Twitter conversation shows many find the thought of “resurrection” concerning and are questioning the high GoFundMe goal.

GoFundMe’s funeral page recently showed fundraisers following the death of a loved one, including funerals, requested between $25,000 and $35,000, with the highest goal set around $50,000 and the lowest at $17,000. Photos on Heiligenthal’s Instagram page, meanwhile, show a comfortable way of life and regular family vacations.

“This is either lunacy or a giant scam in the making,” wrote one user.

The donations on the page are moving fast. By Tuesday afternoon, there were more than 60 individual donations of $100, and a few $500 donations and two $1,000 individual donations.

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Some people are sharing their personal anecdotes of blind faith leading to devastation.

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The Daily Dot has reached out to the Heiligenthals and will update this story if they respond.

What Does It Mean If God Says ‘No’? A Question of Faith

With Bethel and its leaders being among some of the most revered pastors and worship leaders in the United States, and other leaders across the globe weighing in with their support, it’s raised some conflicts for many Christians in the Body of Faith who are simply asking a complex question:

What Does it Mean if God Says ‘No’?

I’m no theologian, but a quick Google Search of ‘Resurrections’ and ‘God Says No’ will show you the odds on the outcome. Which begs the question, “Should we even be asking God for such things?”

There’s obviously a simple answer to that, which Bethel and it’s supporters are demonstrating, however, there’s also a more deeply rooted answer that we can actually see demonstrated in the Scriptures and the life of the Saints if we’re willing to take a closer look.

According to David Armstrong at The National Catholic Registrer, ‘Raising people from the dead is quite biblical:

Matthew 10:5-8 (RSV) These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them, “Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And preach as you go, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons.” (cf. Acts 9:36-41; 20:7-12)

People were raised from the dead even in Old Testament times, as in the case of the prophet Elijah (1 Kings 17:17-23). The prophet Elisha also raised someone from the dead (2 Kings 4:17-37). Indeed, even Elisha’s bones caused a man to be raised (2 Kings 13:20-21: an explicit biblical confirmation of relics).

If it is objected that these were prophets, and hence a special case (and so generally irrelevant), then we present the words of Jesus about John the Baptist, who is considered the last prophet:

Luke 7:26-28 “What then did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. This is he of whom it is written, `Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, who shall prepare thy way before thee.’ I tell you, among those born of women none is greater than John; yet he who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.”

Now, of course, I am not saying that raising the dead is as simple as anyone going out and praying for dead people. I don’t plan on doing so, myself. Like all miracles, it would be an extraordinarily rare occurrence. Nor do I deny that the apostolic period was unquestionably a time of increased miraculous occurrences.

But I am maintaining that the dead coming back to life is an entirely biblical and patristic notion, so that it is not in a category that can be mocked as utterly ludicrous or impossible.

It can’t be so easily dismissed, since Jesus assumes that His disciples (like He Himself) would also be able to heal the sick and cast out demons (as well as evangelize), in the same passage. He didn’t separate raising the dead from the other things as if it were in an entirely different category.

In other words, if someone wishes to rule out all miraculous occurrences whatsoever, it’s starkly contradictory to biblical teaching. Jesus taught that there was such a thing as demons and demon possession. Are we too sophisticated today to agree with Him? Is there no healing at all anymore?

If it is objected that miracles occurred only during the apostolic period, we reply that nothing in the Bible remotely indicates the silly view known as “cessationism.” The truth of the matter is actually quite the contrary. In fact, St. James casually assumes that healing would continue to take place in the Church, by providing an example of Elijah stopping the rain for over three years, that he applied to the Church age (James 5:14-18).

I have in my library the book, Raised from the Dead: True Stories of 400 Resurrection Miracles (Albert J. Hebert, Rockford, Illinois: TAN Books, 1986). The book recounts resurrection stories from the patristic period, as attested by St. Justin Martyr, St. Irenaeus, St. Gregory of Nazianzus, the historian Sozomen, St. Gregory of Nyssa, St. Hilary of Poitiers, and St. Ambrose. How about, for example, St. Augustine?

He recounted four or five such stories (Cardinal Newman credits him with five). In one such story. St. Augustine affirms the miraculous nature of relics (of St. Stephen, in this instance) and the occurrence of someone being raised from the dead:

Eucharius, a Spanish priest, residing at Calama, was for a long time a sufferer from stone. By the relics of the same martyr, which the bishop Possidius brought him, he was cured. Afterward the same priest, sinking under another disease, was lying dead, and already they were binding his hands. By the succor of the same martyr he was raised to life, the priest’s cloak having been brought from the oratory and laid upon the corpse. (City of God, Book XXII, Chapter 8)

St. Irenaeus casually assumed that these things still took place, and that it was folly for heretics to disbelieve it:

Nor can they furnish effective remedies for those external accidents which may occur. And so far are they from being able to raise the dead, as the Lord raised them, and the apostles did by means of prayer, and as has been frequently done in the brotherhood on account of some necessity—the entire Church in that particular locality entreating [the boon] with much fasting and prayer, the spirit of the dead man has returned, and he has been bestowed in answer to the prayers of the saints—that they do not even believe this can be possibly be done, [and hold] that the resurrection from the dead is simply an acquaintance with that truth which they proclaim. (Against Heresies, Book II, Chapter 31, 2)

St. Martin of Tours (316-397) was said to have raised three persons from the dead. Pope St. Gregory the Great tells the story of St. Benedict doing the same. St. Bernard of Clairvaux (1090-1153) is reported to have performed this miracle. Bernard himself testifies that his friend St. Malachy (1095-1148) had raised a woman from the dead.

Others who were used by God to perform this extraordinary miracle are St. Patrick, St. Anthony of Padua (1195-1231), Blessed Margaret of Castello (1287-1320), St. Elizabeth of Hungary, St. Catherine of Sweden, St. Joan of Arc, St. Bernardine, St. Dominic, St. Ignatius Loyola, St. Francis Xavier, St. Philip Neri, St. John Bosco, St. Martin de Porres, St. Vincent Ferrer, and Padre Pio.

Despite all this, some still think that belief in the miracle of raising the dead is the equivalent of what they mock as infantile fairy tales. It’s not. It’s a belief grounded in the Bible and also documented throughout Catholic history.’

So now that we have the Scriptural, and Magisterial, evidence to support such a notion, it still leaves us with one unanswered question, namely the first one we asked, What does it mean if God says ‘No’?

Herein, the answer lies again within another question: How well do you pray?

 

You Ask and Do Not Receive Because You Ask Wrongly, The Battle of Prayer

Prayer is both a gift of grace and a determined response on our part. It always presupposes effort. The great figures of prayer of the Old Covenant before Christ, as well as the Mother of God, the saints, and he himself, all teach us this: prayer is a battle. Against whom? Against ourselves and against the wiles of the tempter who does all he can to turn man away from prayer, away from union with God. We pray as we live, because we live as we pray. If we do not want to act habitually according to the Spirit of Christ, neither can we pray habitually in his name. The “spiritual battle” of the Christian’s new life is inseparable from the battle of prayer (Cathechism of the Catholic Church, 2725).

Ultimately, the Battle for a ‘Yes’ is determined by one factor that turns the tide: alignment of our will with the Divine Will of God.

In the battle of prayer, we must face in ourselves and around us erroneous notions of prayer. Some people view prayer as a simple psychological activity, others as an effort of concentration to reach a mental void. Still others reduce prayer to ritual words and postures. Many Christians unconsciously regard prayer as an occupation that is incompatible with all the other things they have to do: they “don’t have the time.” Those who seek God by prayer are quickly discouraged because they do not know that prayer comes also from the Holy Spirit and not from themselves alone.

We must also face the fact that certain attitudes deriving from the mentality of “this present world” can penetrate our lives if we are not vigilant. For example, some would have it that only that is true which can be verified by reason and science; yet prayer is a mystery that overflows both our conscious and unconscious lives. Others overly prize production and profit; thus prayer, being unproductive, is useless. Still others exalt sensuality and comfort as the criteria of the true, the good, and the beautiful; whereas prayer, the “love of beauty” (philokalia), is caught up in the glory of the living and true God. Finally, some see prayer as a flight from the world in reaction against activism; but in fact, Christian prayer is neither an escape from reality nor a divorce from life.

Finally, our battle has to confront what we experience as failure in prayer: discouragement during periods of dryness; sadness that, because we have “great possessions,” we have not given all to the Lord; disappointment over not being heard according to our own will; wounded pride, stiffened by the indignity that is ours as sinners; our resistance to the idea that prayer is a free and unmerited gift; and so forth. The conclusion is always the same: what good does it do to pray? To overcome these obstacles, we must battle to gain humility, trust, and perseverance. (CCC 2726-2728)

HUMBLE VIGILANCE OF HEART

The habitual difficulty in prayer is distraction. It can affect words and their meaning in vocal prayer; it can concern, more profoundly, him to whom we are praying, in vocal prayer (liturgical or personal), meditation, and contemplative prayer. To set about hunting down distractions would be to fall into their trap, when all that is necessary is to turn back to our heart: for a distraction reveals to us what we are attached to, and this humble awareness before the Lord should awaken our preferential love for him and lead us resolutely to offer him our heart to be purified. Therein lies the battle, the choice of which master to serve.

In positive terms, the battle against the possessive and dominating self requires vigilance, sobriety of heart. When Jesus insists on vigilance, he always relates it to himself, to his coming on the last day and every day: today. The bridegroom comes in the middle of the night; the light that must not be extinguished is that of faith: “‘Come,’ my heart says, ‘seek his face!'”

Another difficulty, especially for those who sincerely want to pray, is dryness. Dryness belongs to contemplative prayer when the heart is separated from God, with no taste for thoughts, memories, and feelings, even spiritual ones. This is the moment of sheer faith clinging faithfully to Jesus in his agony and in his tomb. “Unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if dies, it bears much fruit.” If dryness is due to the lack of roots, because the word has fallen on rocky soil, the battle requires conversion.

Facing temptations in prayer

The most common yet most hidden temptation is our lack of faith. It expresses itself less by declared incredulity than by our actual preferences. When we begin to pray, a thousand labors or cares thought to be urgent vie for priority; once again, it is the moment of truth for the heart: what is its real love? Sometimes we turn to the Lord as a last resort, but do we really believe he is? Sometimes we enlist the Lord as an ally, but our heart remains presumptuous. In each case, our lack of faith reveals that we do not yet share in the disposition of a humble heart: “Apart from me, you can do nothing.”

Another temptation, to which presumption opens the gate, is acedia. The spiritual writers understand by this a form of depression due to lax ascetical practice, decreasing vigilance, carelessness of heart. “The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.” The greater the height, the harder the fall. Painful as discouragement is, it is the reverse of presumption. The humble are not surprised by their distress; it leads them to trust more, to hold fast in constancy.

FILIAL TRUST

Filial trust is tested – it proves itself – in tribulation. The principal difficulty concerns the prayer of petition, for oneself or for others in intercession. Some even stop praying because they think their petition is not heard. Here two questions should be asked: Why do we think our petition has not been heard? How is our prayer heard, how is it “efficacious”?

Why do we complain of not being heard?

In the first place, we ought to be astonished by this fact: when we praise God or give him thanks for his benefits in general, we are not particularly concerned whether or not our prayer is acceptable to him. On the other hand, we demand to see the results of our petitions. What is the image of God that motivates our prayer: an instrument to be used? or the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ?

Are we convinced that “we do not know how to pray as we ought”? Are we asking God for “what is good for us”? Our Father knows what we need before we ask him, but he awaits our petition because the dignity of his children lies in their freedom. We must pray, then, with his Spirit of freedom, to be able truly to know what he wants.

“You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions.”If we ask with a divided heart, we are “adulterers”; God cannot answer us, for he desires our well-being, our life. “Or do you suppose that it is in vain that the scripture says, ‘He yearns jealously over the spirit which he has made to dwell in us?'”That our God is “jealous” for us is the sign of how true his love is. If we enter into the desire of his Spirit, we shall be heard.

Do not be troubled if you do not immediately receive from God what you ask him; for he desires to do something even greater for you, while you cling to him in prayer. God wills that our desire should be exercised in prayer, that we may be able to receive what he is prepared to give.St. Augustine, Ep. 130,8,17:PL 33,500

How is our prayer efficacious?

The revelation of prayer in the economy of salvation teaches us that faith rests on God’s action in history. Our filial trust is enkindled by his supreme act: the Passion and Resurrection of his Son. Christian prayer is cooperation with his providence, his plan of love for men.

For St. Paul, this trust is bold, founded on the prayer of the Spirit in us and on the faithful love of the Father who has given us his only Son. Transformation of the praying heart is the first response to our petition.

The prayer of Jesus makes Christian prayer an efficacious petition. He is its model, he prays in us and with us. Since the heart of the Son seeks only what pleases the Father, how could the prayer of the children of adoption be centered on the gifts rather than the Giver?

Jesus also prays for us – in our place and on our behalf. All our petitions were gathered up, once for all, in his cry on the Cross and, in his Resurrection, heard by the Father. This is why he never ceases to intercede for us with the Father. If our prayer is resolutely united with that of Jesus, in trust and boldness as children, we obtain all that we ask in his name, even more than any particular thing: the Holy Spirit himself, who contains all gifts.

PERSERVERING IN LOVE

“Pray constantly . . . always and for everything giving thanks in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God the Father.” St. Paul adds, “Pray at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance making supplication for all the saints.” For “we have not been commanded to work, to keep watch and to fast constantly, but it has been laid down that we are to pray without ceasing.” This tireless fervor can come only from love. Against our dullness and laziness, the battle of prayer is that of humble, trusting, and persevering love. This love opens our hearts to three enlightening and life-giving facts of faith about prayer.

It is always possible to pray: The time of the Christian is that of the risen Christ who is with us always, no matter what tempests may arise. Our time is in the hands of God:

It is possible to offer fervent prayer even while walking in public or strolling alone, or seated in your shop, . . . while buying or selling, . . . or even while cooking. St. John Chrysostom, Ecloga de oratione 2:PG 63,585.

Prayer is a vital necessity. Proof from the contrary is no less convincing: if we do not allow the Spirit to lead us, we fall back into the slavery of sin. How can the Holy Spirit be our life if our heart is far from him?

Nothing is equal to prayer; for what is impossible it makes possible, what is difficult, easy. . . . For it is impossible, utterly impossible, for the man who prays eagerly and invokes God ceaselessly ever to sin. St. John Chrysostom, De Anna 4,5:PG 54,666.Those who pray are certainly saved; those who do not pray are certainly damned.St. Alphonsus Liguori, Del gran Mezzo della preghiera.

Prayer and Christian life are inseparable, for they concern the same love and the same renunciation, proceeding from love; the same filial and loving conformity with the Father’s plan of love; the same transforming union in the Holy Spirit who conforms us more and more to Christ Jesus; the same love for all men, the love with which Jesus has loved us. “Whatever you ask the Father in my name, he [will] give it to you. This I command you, to love one another.”

He “prays without ceasing” who unites prayer to works and good works to prayer. Only in this way can we consider as realizable the principle of praying without ceasing. Origen, De orat. 12:PG 11,452c.

Thy Will Be Done, But It Never Hurts to Ask

Bottom line, God wants us to pray bold prayers, he even promises to equip us with power to see them manifest through the Holy Spirit, but even more than our freedom to pray, He longs for our union of heart and will with His Divine Will. Prayer first and foremost is and always will be about aligning our hearts with the Gift Giver, not just the Gift.

While my heart goes out to the Heiligenthal Family and I may feel prompted to join them in asking for such a bold request, because we can, I am also careful of union with the Spirit who makes prayer possible. This jealousy of the Spirit is essential to the life of a Christian. We must learn to carefully discern His movements as Jesus did, and still does, because it is the Spirit at work with Jesus who continues to do the will of the Father on earth as it is in heaven. We must remember that God’s heart is always inclined to the prayers of His people but the people are not always inclined to His. Remember how much the Israelites sought after a king, like the other nations had, when it was God’s plan to give them something better. Not everything we ask for is for our best. God knows best. We must learn to trust him.

I wish I could tell you it is the will of God that all men should be resurrected from the dead, in the sense that those who have gone asleep should rise now suddenly as Lazarus did from his grave. But it is so clearly indicated in Scriptures that there is an appointed day of Resurrection for the majority of us still yet to come. The Scriptures also tell us the day of death is greater than the day of birth (Ecclesiastes 7:1). So like the saints, I have learned not to despise death but to welcome it in its appointed time just as our Savior gave himself over at his appointed hour.

I don’t know why King Hezekiah got to petition God for 10 more years on his life, accept to say that it must not have truly affected God’s will for him to do so, so He said, ‘OK’. I can’t fathom why 10 people were accounted as raised from the dead in the Bible and countless others since by the saints, but billions more were not, accept that God had a plan and a purpose. The main factor I can see in each of these (all except Hezekiah) is that the people who participated in the miracles were of one accord with the Spirit, not by their own request but by the Spirit’s prompting. And their hearts were willing to comply in using the gifts given by the Giver.

But it never hurts to ask God, for anything. So long as our hearts are not tempted in pride or prone to become callous like ungrateful children who do not get their way.

Only God truly knows the appointed time of this beautiful little girl, Olive, as He does our own. I can already see what a gift she truly was by the joy in her eyes in all the photographs of her. I pray her family will learn to keep that joy as a gift for all the days they have yet to live themselves. If the Lord should will that her spirit return here to earth, then I rejoice in the glory of Him who is giving a great gift. So be it. But if it is, and has always been, His will for her to be in Heaven then I trust He has something even greater in store for her beautiful family here on earth. There’s nothing more powerful than having a saint in heaven praying next to Jesus for you on earth!

So for those who might feel wounded by God saying ‘No’, I encourage you to read again the Battle for Prayer above. It’s not that God isn’t able to do it or even that He doesn’t want to. He is not some heartless Father who responds in cruelty in discipline. He is a good, good, father, who responds in love for the best of all His children. The Cynic will always leave room for skepticism and doubt because their father is not God but the Devil (John 8:44). The Children of Hope are full of belief and life and they do not cower at the scorpion’s bite (Luke 10:19). And as Children of Hope, we are called to pray, to prophesy, to preach, and to believe in all the words of Jesus Christ.  So knock with great humility, filial trust, and with perseverance knock often, but regardless of the response, give your heart totally to God’s will – and trust Him, especially if there’s suffering and grieving.

Filial trust is tested – it proves itself – in tribulation.

May we each grow in greater discernment of His Spirit at work in our lives. And may we all awaken courageously to the Battle of Prayer until we manifest the victory of God’s Best ‘Yes’ in our lives, whether that call is to #WakeUpOlive or #WakingEve or even to #WakeUpWorld, let’s just be sure we answer the Call.

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2 thoughts on “When God Says ‘No’ #WakeUpOlive Bethel Worship Leaders’ Call for ‘Resurrection Life’ Miracle Leads to Questions of Faith

  1. Lea

    I believe it is possible to have hope for a miracle while still being so confident that everything will still be okay if it doesn’t happen. It is always one thing to pray for a miracle and another to pray that the will of the Lord be done!

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